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Thread: HB 5220 of 2017 Allow purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration under certain circumstances

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    HB 5220 of 2017 Allow purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration under certain circumstances

    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 11/7/2017 bill electronically reproduced 11/02/2017

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    Looks like it is essentially just proposing taking the legal limit of oleoresin capsicum from 10% to 18%.

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    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 12/4/2017 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...0-76FFFACF.pdf

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    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 2/7/2018 referred to second reading

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    It will be interesting to see who will oppose this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    It will be interesting to see who will oppose this.
    I also would like to see who actually does oppose, but most of that will not be done in the open where we can see it.

    I expect opposition from anyone that is exempt from that law: MCL 750-231


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    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 2/13/2018 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...0-4FBAAC7D.pdf

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    We missed a little movement on this one:

    2/7/2018 HJ 13 Pg. 204 reported with recommendation without amendment
    2/7/2018 HJ 13 Pg. 204 referred to second reading

    It is out of committee and back to the house for voting.


    This part is also interesting:

    POSITIONS:

    A representative from Damsels in Defense testified in support of the bill. (12-5-17)

    A representative from the Michigan State Police indicated a neutral position regarding the bill. (12-5-17)
    That part also kind of angers me. The MSP should not have any voice in law making. It is one thing to have an individual (who happens to be a cop) testifying, but having an MSP "representative" (a part of the Executive branch) regularly weighting in as "pro, neutral or con" is wrong.


    Analysis as Reported From Committee (2/13/2018) is a pretty good read.


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    Having MSP input angers me too. They are not a lobbying group, their salaries come from tax payer money. Having to get the the opinions from the MSP looks to much like a "police State."

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    It is one way the governor exerts his influence. The MSP does what the governor tells them. He is their boss and they are his personal lobbying arm.

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