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    Marijuana Use

    This could be a problem. Perhaps it has already been addressed, and I am unaware of it...?

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    Sessions is also reversing the Obama era policy directing Federal Prosecutors to "honor" state legalization laws. They will now have free reign to prosecute people regardless of state laws. The failing war on drugs will be re-invigorated under Sessions as he is an extreme hardliner. In the past he has promoted the idea of mandatory death sentences for people convicted of second drug offenses, including for marijuana. He often equates mariuana to heroin and in his eyes there seems to be no difference in severity. Nothing like throwing good money after bad. Add in his stance on civil forfeiture and this guy needs to go.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-flourish.html

    No, I am not or have ever been a user or grower of marijuana. I simply don't see it is a being any worse then alcohol and feel that is a waste of tax payer money to continue criminalizing it. I also believe it has legitimate medical uses that are being impeded by the government at the detriment to society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vansic26 View Post
    Sessions is also reversing the Obama era policy directing Federal Prosecutors to "honor" state legalization laws. They will now have free reign to prosecute people regardless of state laws. The failing war on drugs will be re-invigorated under Sessions as he is an extreme hardliner. In the past he has promoted the idea of mandatory death sentences for people convicted of second drug offenses, including for marijuana. He often equates mariuana to heroin and in his eyes there seems to be no difference in severity. Nothing like throwing good money after bad. Add in his stance on civil forfeiture and this guy needs to go.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-flourish.html

    No, I am not or have ever been a user or grower of marijuana. I simply don't see it is a being any worse then alcohol and feel that is a waste of tax payer money to continue criminalizing it. I also believe it has legitimate medical uses that are being impeded by the government at the detriment to society.
    The difference is its a violation of the law, not the drugs damage.

    I do drink, do not do drugs, no pills, nothing.

    I support legalization of weed, but your point is even off base, you can exist on heroin if you use clean needles for 40-50 years, its not that bad for you at all. Its the stupid crap you do when you are high, use needles, unsafe sex, sell your body for more of the drugs.

    To put it in context the same feds will come get you with guns, up to and include kill you for resisting if you do not pay taxes.

    A death sentence for multiple illegal drug cases is not so crazy in that context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtmcgirt76239 View Post
    The difference is its a violation of the law, not the drugs damage. I understand its a violation of Federal law. This violation was for the most part being ignored by the Feds in states that legalized use. This will likely be coming to an end with Sessions new memo.

    I do drink, do not do drugs, no pills, nothing.

    I support legalization of weed, but your point is even off base, you can exist on heroin if you use clean needles for 40-50 years, its not that bad for you at all. Its the stupid crap you do when you are high, use needles, unsafe sex, sell your body for more of the drugs. I guess you are correct in terms of the adverse effects of heroin although it is much more addictive then weed. As a result you really don't see many potheads breaking into houses or prostituting themselves for their next high.

    To put it in context the same feds will come get you with guns, up to and include kill you for resisting if you do not pay taxes. This is not at all an equal comparison as you are throwing in resisting, a physical action taken against police. An equal comparison would be if they sentenced you to death for the second time you skip paying taxes.

    A death sentence for multiple illegal drug cases is not so crazy in that context.
    I am mostly pointing out that the Federal government may be ramping up its war on drugs, including marijuana. So medical and recreational users who have been skirting federal law based on state legalization should be aware that the false sense of security is fading. I do not support the the Feds ability to supersede state laws on this issue. I also don't believe weed should be illegal, rather regulated similar to alcohol. (no driving or carrying firearms under the influence)

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    I was actually wondering about this a few weeks ago, I have a friend of mine who is also an MI resident with a medical marijuana card, he seemed to believe he could not legally purchase a firearm because of it. My initial impression was he could since he was not "illegally" using it. This seems to confirm that although sounds like that may or may not change soon.

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    didn't michigan send out some letters like that for a while?
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    Quote Originally Posted by castrotikon View Post
    I was actually wondering about this a few weeks ago, I have a friend of mine who is also an MI resident with a medical marijuana card, he seemed to believe he could not legally purchase a firearm because of it. My initial impression was he could since he was not "illegally" using it. This seems to confirm that although sounds like that may or may not change soon.
    If you read the parenthetical note next to that question the 4473, the Feds do not differentiate between a medical MJ user and one using or possessing illegally. Federally, it is still illegal.. and as such, a Federal check and eval is going to say you can't purchase a firearm because of that.

    That being said, if the people want marijuana legal, they need to lobby their reps and senators to change the federal law... end this for all and make it a States Rights issue. That's where I'd like its legality decided.

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    If it ever passes here for recreational use I'm going to buy a bag of the best weed they have and right after smoking it I'm going to attack every Pizza, Fish and Chip, Sushi, and Coney Island place within driving distance!

    I smoked it back in the late 60's and 70's and it was dirt weed or so I'm told by today's standards. The 2 things I remember the most about the experience was how horny it made me and after the sex the way food tasted! White Castles, Brays, Chinese food, Pizza. anything loaded with fat! I had a friend pass away here a short time ago and he was on some MM and he told me how good food tasted again. He ate like there was no tomorrow.........he knew his life was over and he didn't waste time at the pity party.

    It should be declassified and allowed by those that need.............or want it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vansic26 View Post
    I am mostly pointing out that the Federal government may be ramping up its war on drugs, including marijuana. So medical and recreational users who have been skirting federal law based on state legalization should be aware that the false sense of security is fading. I do not support the the Feds ability to supersede state laws on this issue. I also don't believe weed should be illegal, rather regulated similar to alcohol. (no driving or carrying firearms under the influence)
    Not at all, the resisting is not paying. They come with guns if you keep ignoring them.
    What do they come with guns for ?

    There feds and the state and city for that matter do not do well when you ignore them. They do a couple standard things for even petty stuff that spirals out of control, start siezing stuff, taking your wages, selling your home and kicking you out, throwing you in jail. I dui where you hit no one, even a speeding ticket that you just ignore, it can cost you many thousands of dollars. A parking ticket you ignore can get up there. A parking ticket. I do not understand why people think ignoring or trying to be slick with weed laws is special that you should not be dealt with a stiff hand. Why would it be any different than telling EPA to screw off. You should try that. Start doing small stuff like killing migratory birds, pooring oil down the drain, and see how easy it is to get $25,000 fines per day per incident.

    There is nothing special about weed. I am already getting sick of weed being a folk hero.

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    It's always been that way federally.

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