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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzi01 View Post
    Looks like they are using straight lands and grooves barrels.

    Quick, someone fabricate a straight "rifled" barrel and confirm before SHOT Show officially starts

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    So there is a minimum twist in the definition of rifling?

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    That is something their lawyers must have seen. I am not a lawyer so I have no damn clue lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjeski View Post
    So there is a minimum twist in the definition of rifling?
    I dont think so.
    It sounds like any twist constitutes rifling. Straight lands and grooves do not twist, so technically, it soesnt meet the full definition of a rifle.

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    so a 55/62/72gr .22 projectile that keyholes like nobody's business and can't shoot straight more than a few yards?
    I mean, up real real close it would probably work fine. but it's not going to be much use for target, plinking, competition, hunting/survival , or just about anything else.
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    I don't know about this definition of "rifling" that he is hanging his hat on, it sounds to be a stretch to me, and even though he says it, the binary trigger fires the rifle twice for a single PULL of the trigger, but not when the trigger is pulled. That takes it out of MG restrictions, and would also, possibly, make it not a rifle. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

    I do know that he doesn't know his butt hole from a bean pot when it comes to shooting a muzzle loading smooth bore.
    If the shooter knows how to load, every single shot comes out like a knuckle ball! The only time it will act like a curve ball is when there is a defect of a gas bubble in the ball itself and it is not balanced. When that happens the ball will start on a random spin, which can make it do anything except climb.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrScaryGuy View Post
    so a 55/62/72gr .22 projectile that keyholes like nobody's business and can't shoot straight more than a few yards?
    I mean, up real real close it would probably work fine. but it's not going to be much use for target, plinking, competition, hunting/survival , or just about anything else.
    a 77 gr isn't bad at 30 yards out of a 1:12 20" Colt pencil

    also I think some don't have a clue about baseball
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterspirit View Post
    a 77 gr isn't bad at 30 yards out of a 1:12 20" Colt pencil

    also I think some don't have a clue about baseball
    if i had infinite money and time, I'd check different lengths/riflings/weights on gel. I'm just not sure a light bullet that loses a lot of speed due to tumbling would make that big of a cavity if it hits sideways. maybe? my point is that we know how bullets work well, and if the big deal about the reformation is that it has straight rifling... i'd rather just build pistols or pay for even more tax stamps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzi01 View Post
    Looks like they are using straight lands and grooves barrels.

    [video=youtube_share;XbIoRC7wSXY]https://youtu.be/XbIoRC7wSXY

    Makes sense to get around the NFA but what would it do that a AR pistol with a brace doesn't do at a fraction of the price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garymac View Post
    Makes sense to get around the NFA but what would it do that a AR pistol with a brace doesn't do at a fraction of the price?
    get us a new NFA/GCA in 2021?
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