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Thread: HB 5414 of 2018 - Lifetime CPL

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    HB 5414 of 2018 - Lifetime CPL

    HB 5414 of 2018
    Weapons; licensing; lifetime concealed pistol license; provide for. Amends secs. 5b, 5c, 5d, 5e & 5l of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425b et seq.) & repeals sec. 5h of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425h).
    Last Action: 1/17/2018 bill electronically reproduced 01/16/2018

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    Interesting…pay $50 more than a "standard" license and get a lifetime license.
    You can go back to a standard license at any time.
    Why would anyone want to do that? Because a lifetime CPL won't qualify as a substitution for a NICS check when buying firearms.

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    I am neutral on this... Mostly because I am always concerned they will juke at the last minute and add something terrible.

    I do think our licensing is FAR too expensive... Indiana regular permits are $40 and lifetime permits are $125.

    Here's a recent comparison of costs https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0048.htm
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    They have also placed language for transferring a license to a new county if you wish to when you move. For an additional fee of course.

    If an individual wishes to transfer a license to a new county of residence, the county clerk of that new county of residence shall charge that individual a fee of $25.00 and issue a new license to the individual. The county clerk is responsible for notifying the previous county clerk that he or she is no longer responsible for maintaining the license.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    They have also placed language for transferring a license to a new county if you wish to when you move. For an additional fee of course.
    Absolute trash. If anything it should just be transferred wholesale to the Michigan State Police, which is supposedly bringing an online renewal website by December 1 of this year as mandated by law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    Absolute trash. If anything it should just be transferred wholesale to the Michigan State Police, which is supposedly bringing an online renewal website by December 1 of this year as mandated by law.
    It takes the state police 6 million + to maintain the existing database... or so they claim

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    Quote Originally Posted by partdeux View Post
    It takes the state police 6 million + to maintain the existing database... or so they claim
    I'll do it for 5...
    "Sec. 2. All persons who are commonly known as “Greasers” or the issue of Spanish and Indian blood, ... who go armed and are not known to be peaceable and quiet persons, and who can give no good account of themselves, may be disarmed by any lawful officer, and punished..." - Disarming of "Greasers", An Act to punish Vagrants, Vagabonds, and Dangerous and Suspicious Persons” California, passed April 30, 1855.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrScaryGuy View Post
    I'll do it for 5...
    That would be a pretty sweet gig... annually?

    I'll do it for $4.99 million.
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    4.5 & I'm not responsible for errors or omissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    4.5 & I'm not responsible for errors or omissions.
    neither are they.....


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