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Thread: SB 0934, 0935, 0936, 0937 & 0938 of 2018 - Expand Background Checks & Eliminate CPL Holders from exempted individuals for "Gun Free School Zones"

  1. 04-15-2018, 03:16 PM #11
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    I could just as easily see this as an avenue to CLOSE registration, by simply amending the law to remove the requirement to turn them in for pistols, too.
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  2. 04-15-2018, 03:43 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    I could just as easily see this as an avenue to CLOSE registration, by simply amending the law to remove the requirement to turn them in for pistols, too.
    I don't think the folks behind these bills are looking to loosen any Michigan gun laws...

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  3. 04-15-2018, 03:47 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTom View Post
    I don't think the folks behind these bills are looking to loosen any Michigan gun laws...
    The people behind the bills aren't in control of the house or senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    The people behind the bills aren't in control of the house or senate.
    But…a lot of good that has done us in the last few years!

    The feel-good movement right now is to enact more restrictive gun laws…not only is it "for the children"…it is being pushed for by the children (kind of)...

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    Possible? -------------> Probable?


    Reasonable? ----------> Actual?

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    The feel-good movement right now is to enact more restrictive gun laws…not only is it "for the children"…it is being pushed for by the children (kind of)...
    And will be signed without hesitation by our Governor.
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    Shouldn't they be doing the same on "refugee's" and illegals. Wait, pretty much the same group. But shouldn't they.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    The people behind the bills aren't in control of the house or senate.
    Are you sure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    Are you sure?
    Fair point... It's hard to find a pro-gun legislator in Lansing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTom View Post
    SB 0934 would require a purchase permit or CPL for all firearm buyers (i.e., all firearms sales, including long guns, would require a background check, FFL or private).

    There is language in SB 0934 that stops the process short of having to return copies of the completed license to purchase (LTP, i.e., "purchase permit") or RI-60 (sales record for purchases where a CPL was used in lieu of a purchase permit) to the police for registration purposes. In other words, this bill does not expand the Michigan Handgun Registration to include all firearms.
    What it does NOT do is get rid of handgun registration. I will be bending Triston Coles ear on that tomorrow.
    There is only one reason why we have registration-to control blacks from getting guns in the late 1800s so.
    Never solved a crime yet. I believe I read last fall the MSP would even let it go, at least would not oppose.
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