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    Shooting left on a rest at 25 or so feet

    So do I move the rear sight a little right or left
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    Are you sure it’s the sights and not your grip? In most cases your grip is the cause. I would concentrate on adjusting the grip and the finger position of your trigger finger.





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    Good info above. If that's not the problem: Move the front sight the opposite of the direction you want your shots to move, or move your rear sight the same direction you want your shots to move. In your case, move rear sight right.
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    I'll try and put more finger on the trigger
    Quote Originally Posted by Bradw3451 View Post
    Are you sure it’s the sights and not your grip? In most cases your grip is the cause. I would concentrate on adjusting the grip and the finger position of your trigger finger.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradw3451 View Post
    Are you sure it’s the sights and not your grip? In most cases your grip is the cause. I would concentrate on adjusting the grip and the finger position of your trigger finger.





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    I wholeheartedly disagree. Your grip does not affect accuracy.

    These sort of charts are typically grossly wrong. They should pretty much all say "Poor trigger control." It's all trigger control and sight alignment; nothing more and nothing less. Grip, stance, amount of finger on the trigger, etc are all just bonuses. They do NOT affect accuracy.

    There are only 3 things you can do wrong to not hit the bullseye.
    1. Misalign sights and pull trigger perfect....Shot goes where sights were.
    2. Align sights perfectly but somewhere between sight alignment and BANG, you've jerked the gun...shot goes where you jerked it.
    3. You've misaligned the sights AND jerked the gun.

    90+% of the time it's trigger control causing people to pull their shot.

    OP, have another shooter that is known to be very consistent shoot it and see if they do the same. Your grouping looks relatively tight in the video with a few flyers; it very well could be your sights are a tad off. If you end up moving the them, then the rear sight goes in the direction you want the impact to move(so right to move impact right). Let someone else shoot it first though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocowheats View Post
    These sorts of charts are most typically grossly wrong. They should pretty much all say "Poor trigger control."

    There are only 3 things you can do wrong to not hit the bullseye.
    1. Misalign sights and pull trigger perfect....Shot goes where sights were.
    2. Align sights perfectly but somewhere between sight alignment and BANG, you've jerked the gun.
    3. You've misaligned the sights AND jerked the gun.

    90+% of the time it's trigger control causing people to pull their shot.

    Damn! A brutally honest man...
    I see people come up with all kinds of possible excuses as to why they or others miss and agree, 90% of the time it their finger getting away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocowheats View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree. Your grip does not affect accuracy.

    These sort of charts are typically grossly wrong. They should pretty much all say "Poor trigger control." It's all trigger control and sight alignment; nothing more and nothing less. Grip, stance, amount of finger on the trigger, etc are all just bonuses. They do NOT affect accuracy.

    There are only 3 things you can do wrong to not hit the bullseye.
    1. Misalign sights and pull trigger perfect....Shot goes where sights were.
    2. Align sights perfectly but somewhere between sight alignment and BANG, you've jerked the gun...shot goes where you jerked it.
    3. You've misaligned the sights AND jerked the gun.

    90+% of the time it's trigger control causing people to pull their shot.

    OP, have another shooter that is known to be very consistent shoot it and see if they do the same. Your grouping looks relatively tight in the video with a few flyers; it very well could be your sights are a tad off. If you end up moving the them, then the rear sight goes in the direction you want the impact to move(so right to move impact right). Let someone else shoot it first though.
    So you’re saying that regardless of how someone grips a gun it doesn’t affect accuracy? If you truly believe that you need to do additional research. There are several more factors than three which can dictate ones shooting capabilities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradw3451 View Post
    So you’re saying that regardless of how someone grips a gun it doesn’t affect accuracy? If you truly believe that you need to do additional research. There are several more factors than three which can dictate ones shooting capabilities.


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    Then how can I hit the target with the gun upside down pulling the trigger with my pinky?

    Sight alignment and trigger press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocowheats View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree. Your grip does not affect accuracy.

    These sort of charts are typically grossly wrong. They should pretty much all say "Poor trigger control." It's all trigger control and sight alignment; nothing more and nothing less. Grip, stance, amount of finger on the trigger, etc are all just bonuses. They do NOT affect accuracy.

    There are only 3 things you can do wrong to not hit the bullseye.
    1. Misalign sights and pull trigger perfect....Shot goes where sights were.
    2. Align sights perfectly but somewhere between sight alignment and BANG, you've jerked the gun...shot goes where you jerked it.
    3. You've misaligned the sights AND jerked the gun.

    90+% of the time it's trigger control causing people to pull their shot.

    OP, have another shooter that is known to be very consistent shoot it and see if they do the same. Your grouping looks relatively tight in the video with a few flyers; it very well could be your sights are a tad off. If you end up moving the them, then the rear sight goes in the direction you want the impact to move(so right to move impact right). Let someone else shoot it first though.
    ^^^THIS^^^ is 100% correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocowheats View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree. Your grip does not affect accuracy.

    These sort of charts are typically grossly wrong. They should pretty much all say "Poor trigger control." It's all trigger control and sight alignment; nothing more and nothing less. Grip, stance, amount of finger on the trigger, etc are all just bonuses. They do NOT affect accuracy.

    There are only 3 things you can do wrong to not hit the bullseye.
    1. Misalign sights and pull trigger perfect....Shot goes where sights were.
    2. Align sights perfectly but somewhere between sight alignment and BANG, you've jerked the gun...shot goes where you jerked it.
    3. You've misaligned the sights AND jerked the gun.

    90+% of the time it's trigger control causing people to pull their shot.

    OP, have another shooter that is known to be very consistent shoot it and see if they do the same. Your grouping looks relatively tight in the video with a few flyers; it very well could be your sights are a tad off. If you end up moving the them, then the rear sight goes in the direction you want the impact to move(so right to move impact right). Let someone else shoot it first though.
    But it's sooo much more fun to blame the gun!

    Jwade78, you don't say if you are shooting a handgun or a long gun, but, either way, have you looked into any of the fundamental training classes? There are several trainers you can talk to, but one of our sponsor's, MDFI offers YSINTG (You Suck, It's Not The Gun) (for handgunner's), as well as foundation classes for pistol and carbine. MGO members have been offered free YSINTG and Foundation classes (one class was just raffled off for members - try to catch the next one).

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