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    Quote Originally Posted by G22 View Post
    I understand that, however the SDA doesn't say anything about criminal offense, it says 'crime'.
    "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?" <---- that is referring to misdemeanor or above.


    I really like the idea of a $100 fine for not concealing in a pistol free zone.

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    Excellent development. But our governor is unlikely to sign it.

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    On closer examination, there doesn't appear to be any reference in the text about open carrying. I've noticed that many bills carry language in the description that doesn't show up in the actual language of the bill. Maybe the dems will somehow think that the open carry loophole for concealed carriers is being eliminated and vote for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iambusy3 View Post
    Maybe the dems will somehow think that the open carry loophole for concealed carriers is being eliminated and vote for it.
    Shhhh. Some of them might read this.
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    Sometimes gun owners are their own worst enemies. The bill gives up nothing and makes a big improvement. For a $100 CI many CPL holders would just conceal carry in those zones.

    Arizona tried something similar before permitless carry, they tried to reduce carrying without a permit from a misdemeanor to a parking ticket CI.

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    Didn't we just raise the penalty for carrying concealed without a permit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    Didn't we just raise the penalty for carrying concealed without a permit?
    Doing so is still a 5 year, $2,500 felony and has been for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTom View Post
    Doing so is still a 5 year, $2,500 felony and has been for many years.
    For some reason I was thinking that the penalty went up. Thanks!

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    This is definitely a cheaper route than getting licensed as a PI, insurance/bonded, etc., in order to be PFZ exempt.

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    HB 4200 of 2019
    Weapons; concealed; penalties for open-carry of a concealed pistol in prohibited areas; modify. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
    Last Action: 5/24/2019 Analysis File Added

    HB 4201 of 2019
    Weapons; concealed; sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 11b, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.11b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4200'19
    Last Action: 5/24/2019 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...0-6EF883B4.pdf
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