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    Bait must be scattered directly on the ground.

    Reviewing the baiting ban lingo, I saw this and it puzzled me.

    "Bait must be scattered directly on the ground."
    I'm not sure just what other options there are. Hanging sugar beets from trees?

    In the past, when baiting was legal, I would get a scoop of beats and pull the trailer next to a food plot. The trailer had sides that, for the most part, prevented deer from getting the beets. I would use those beets on each hunting stand throughout the three months of hunting season. The deer couldn't get the beets, but the trailer sure drew the deer to the area to try.

    The DNR is concerned that single bite baits will lead to prion ground contamination. I don't know that much about the science of it all, but wouldn't baiting from a raised platform help prevent that?

    What's your thoughts?
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    Pretty sure the language was the same previously for baiting. Not really an answer to your question thought.
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    When baiting was illegal before, some hunters used 8" PVC pipes with a clean out "y" at the bottom. Paint it and strap it to a tree and and it is hard to see. Maybe this is what they are referring to that is a no no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilt Guy View Post
    When baiting was illegal before, some hunters used 8" PVC pipes with a clean out "y" at the bottom. Paint it and strap it to a tree and and it is hard to see. Maybe this is what they are referring to that is a no no.
    That's a good point. It makes more sense than anything I could think of.
    I reached out to a baiting specialist in Lansing to ask. I got a moment of silence after asking the question about the wording. Then I got a "I have no idea! There HAS to be a reason, but I don't know. I've answered a million questions on baiting throughout the years, but this is a new one. Let me look into it."
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    Automated feeders?

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    Automated feeders are legal today (in the right area) and have always been mentioned in the guide as being legal when baiting.
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    I believe it means to spread out the bait so it's not concentrated. So no PVC feeders like Klit Guy said, or leaving it out in a bucket or a trough. No salt blocks or mineral blocks, or pouring any bait in one small pile. The baiting rules have said 10 x 10 minimum area for quite a while. Leaving bait on a trailer even if it has sides that prevent deer from getting to it, I would say that against the baiting laws. As for hanging it from trees besides that being ineffective I would say that's against the baiting laws too.

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    With baiting laws being debated and potentially changing, I've been worried about my compost pile. The carrot, cabbage, and apples don't decompose well in this cold weather.

    I don't know if our local deer know what they are or are not allowed to eat. So I've been guarding my compost pile dawn until dusk for 9 days now. Warning to all deer: Do not eat from my compost. VIOLATORS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT !

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    Do Bait Bans Really Help in the Fight Against CWD?

    Michigan may soon overturn its deer-baiting ban due to hunter backlash. But should the prohibition have been passed in the first place?

    There’s been a battle brewing all year over deer bait up in Michigan, where the DNR banned feeding deer in all of the Lower Peninsula and parts of the U.P. for the 2019 season. The new restriction was so contentious among hunters that earlier this month, the state senate advanced a bill that would overturn the ban for next year. Governor Gretchen Whitmer has said she will veto it.

    A number of hunters testified in favor of the senate bill, including Ted Nugent, who said that he talks to sportsmen every season who are giving up hunting due to ever-tightening regulations.

    The subject of baiting and CWD has been on my mind a lot lately because I live in Kentucky, where baiting is both legal and extremely popular. I’d guess that 80 percent or more of those early-season, full-velvet Kentucky bucks you read about every September are killed while the deer had its head in a corn pile—or was at least walking to or from one.

    Kentucky is currently CWD free,
    https://www.fieldandstream.com/story...t-against-cwd/

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    I read the story. I found this interesting:
    "Currently, baiting is allowed in some Wisconsin counties, but not others. And in areas of southern Wisconsin, the CWD prevalence rate in adult bucks is upwards of 50 percent, and the deer that are affected are dying at twice to three times the rate of unaffected deer."

    I can't imagine a 50-50 chance that the buck that I just shot has a disease that could (maybe) affect me if I eat it. My days of hunting for deer for food would be over.

    I also found it interesting that the author asks if hunters are ready to start butchering their deer where they shot them and not transport the carcass. I would be fine with that but I am in the minority when it comes to someone else doing the dirty work. I think hunter numbers would dwindle for this reason too.
    At the same time, how many carcasses, if mandatory field butchering was the law, would be left on the ground in the woods for every other wild animal to scavenge? I can't believe that this would be a good thing.

    There is no good answer to this baiting issue. Hunter numbers and deer health go hand in hand.
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    Submissive gun rights advocates need to lose their submissiveness before we lose our 2A rights.

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