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    This is very similar to what a family member presented for a transfer with me. RI-010, signed by the issuing agency, but not yellow card stock or notarized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordite_blues_jr View Post
    This is very similar to what a family member presented for a transfer with me. RI-010, signed by the issuing agency, but not yellow card stock or notarized.
    Except that is NOT an RI-010. I sure as hell hope you didn't fall for it.

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    Except that is NOT an RI-010. I sure as hell hope you didn't fall for it.
    I called and spoke with the issuing department.

    There is a new system where the application is notarized and after the background check is conducted (and passed), the department prints the RI-010 on standard white paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordite_blues_jr View Post
    I called and spoke with the issuing department.

    There is a new system where the application is notarized and after the background check is conducted (and passed), the department prints the RI-010 on standard white paper.
    They are not allowed to make-up new processes. The LAW, MCL 28.422 spells out the form, which is supplied by the MSP. The background check is done and the RI-010 is issued. The issuing agency signs that the background has been done and that is the "go ahead" from them. The purchaser fills out the personal information on the RI-010 and doesn't sign it until they are in front of a notary. That is the "proof" of who they are.

    If BOTH are not in place, the sale is supposed to be refused.

    Please name the "issuing agency", we already know that Southfield and West Bloomfield are not following the law, and there have been no changes in the law as of yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    They are not allowed to make-up new processes. The LAW, MCL 28.422 spells out the form, which is supplied by the MSP. The background check is done and the RI-010 is issued. The issuing agency signs that the background has been done and that is the "go ahead" from them. The purchaser fills out the personal information on the RI-010 and doesn't sign it until they are in front of a notary. That is the "proof" of who they are.

    If BOTH are not in place, the sale is supposed to be refused.

    Please name the "issuing agency", we already know that Southfield and West Bloomfield are not following the law, and there have been no changes in the law as of yet.
    Shelby Township.

    I was told the application is now notarized, proving who they are when applying for the purchase permit. After the background check is cleared, the department issues the RI-010.

    I'm waiting to hear back from the MSP. They are not taking phone calls, so I have emailed them.
    Last edited by cordite_blues_jr; 07-15-2020 at 02:41 PM. Reason: Update

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    Per the MSP Firearm Records Division email response I received:

    Good Afternoon,

    The information the agency gave you is correct. We did change the License to Purchase form to now print out on white paper instead of the yellow card stock and it is one sided instead of two. When you go to obtain a License you first complete the application which will get printed out with the individuals name and information on it. The applicant will sign the application and have it notarized. When the application is completed the agency will run the background check and create the License to Purchase. If you are registering multiple guns they can print multiple licenses from one application.

    Please let me know if you have further questions.

    Thanks,

    Kari

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordite_blues_jr View Post
    I called and spoke with the issuing department.

    There is a new system where the application is notarized and after the background check is conducted (and passed), the department prints the RI-010 on standard white paper.
    You said, "This is very similar to what a family member presented for a transfer with me", which I presumed to be the picture that was posted in this thread only 2 posts prior to your post. THAT is an application, not an RI-010.
    Last edited by Scoop; 07-15-2020 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordite_blues_jr View Post
    I was told the application is now notarized, proving who they are when applying for the purchase permit. After the background check is cleared, the department issues the RI-010.
    That's plain ignorant. You're standing right there. You fill out the app. You show them your ID. What the hell do they need the application notarized for? They SEE you sign it.

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    I'm sorry for the confusing post. What I received was not the application. My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
    That's plain ignorant. You're standing right there. You fill out the app. You show them your ID. What the hell do they need the application notarized for? They SEE you sign it.
    Probably so they can charge $10 for the notary fee

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