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    Rick's Annual shooting event

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    How much is he paying?

    This IS a man's private commercial venture, correct?
    Summer is here and we have officially declared the Corona Virus can be disregarded because we want to do some things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackam View Post
    How much is he paying?

    This IS a man's private commercial venture, correct?
    Wrong. If you read about the event, it has been put on FREE for the last eight years to educate women "only" in the safe use of a firearm.

    Last year this event taught just under 1000 women "in one day" with the help of certified instructors and RSO's from Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.

    NO one is getting paid for their time. ALL materials and services are donated ( including from MGO).

    The date had to be changed because of covid and some of instructors that had signed on for the original date can't make the August date. That's the reason for the call for more instructors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackam View Post
    How much is he paying?

    This IS a man's private commercial venture, correct?
    At face value, Rick does this all for free. Top Gun, and now this year Recoil Arms (two locations this year) donate their facilities for this event. MGO donates ammo, and starting this year, targets. Fenix Ammo is also donating a sizable amount of ammo, as well. Instructors and RSO's volunteer their time to help with the training and range management. The net cost to Rick is zero (or close to it).

    The result is, a LOT of women go from "thinking about" being a shooter to have actually shot a firearm for the first time. It gets them past that initial point of not knowing what they are doing while handling a firearm to having been exposed to a firearm, a gun range, actually shooting all while having some training/guidance in the process (classroom and range).

    That is a great thing and I SO WISH it was MGO doing it!

    The reality is, the "training" given that day is minimal…and the women know it. Who are they going to look to for full training classes? Of course, Rick! Where are they going to go to shoot and shop? Top Gun or Recoil would be the first thought! So yes, at the end of the day, it is indeed a commercial promotional event and it's a safe bet that is the primary motivation for Rick. If it were 100% MGO's event, it would not be, but it is a fairly safe bet that MGO would not get enough volunteers to support the event. Also, it brings a heap of liability exposure on MGO to try to move that many new shooters through the lanes in one (or two this year) day.

    So, even though it is a commercial promo event, the fact that it brings over 1,000 women into the fold as having fired a gun for the first time and wanting more training/experience is a great thing and MGO supports it for that reason…it is 100% MGO mission-centric.

    So yeah…volunteer trainers and RSO's are needed!
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    I've been at most of them since the start and I'm actually pretty sad I can't do it this year. Yes, there is a bit of self promotion that goes on, but as far as I know rick has never discouraged people from handing out their own business cards and such. I remember him encouraging it once or twice, so i'm pretty sure he's not doing it just for promoting his own business.

    And I agree, MGO has never made up more than a few of the instructors. They need a LOT of instructors for something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTom View Post
    At face value, Rick does this all for free. Top Gun, and now this year Recoil Arms (two locations this year) donate their facilities for this event. MGO donates ammo, and starting this year, targets. Fenix Ammo is also donating a sizable amount of ammo, as well. Instructors and RSO's volunteer their time to help with the training and range management. The net cost to Rick is zero (or close to it).

    The result is, a LOT of women go from "thinking about" being a shooter to have actually shot a firearm for the first time. It gets them past that initial point of not knowing what they are doing while handling a firearm to having been exposed to a firearm, a gun range, actually shooting all while having some training/guidance in the process (classroom and range).

    That is a great thing and I SO WISH it was MGO doing it!

    The reality is, the "training" given that day is minimal…and the women know it. Who are they going to look to for full training classes? Of course, Rick! Where are they going to go to shoot and shop? Top Gun or Recoil would be the first thought! So yes, at the end of the day, it is indeed a commercial promotional event and it's a safe bet that is the primary motivation for Rick. If it were 100% MGO's event, it would not be, but it is a fairly safe bet that MGO would not get enough volunteers to support the event. Also, it brings a heap of liability exposure on MGO to try to move that many new shooters through the lanes in one (or two this year) day.

    So, even though it is a commercial promo event, the fact that it brings over 1,000 women into the fold as having fired a gun for the first time and wanting more training/experience is a great thing and MGO supports it for that reason…it is 100% MGO mission-centric.

    So yeah…volunteer trainers and RSO's are needed!
    Must have been a commercial event for MGO the last eight years with them setting up a table and selling memberships all day.
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    I'm surprised that somebody hasn't pushed back on the name of the event. Feminist types must not have noticed.
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    no, they are on top of top of this.
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    Much appreciation to Spencer Johnson of Firearms Legal Protection for supplying the upcoming women's free shooting event with targets. I have them all "in hand" now! Also, much appreciation to Uncoiled Firearms and Gun Range for sourcing them! You both rock! True story.
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    I saw a news article today that reported on the event.

    The Associated Press reports that Legally Armed in Detroit has scheduled its annual training event. Recoil Range got mentioned too, as well as Top Gun Range.

    No mention of sponser MGO or anyone else.
    Summer is here and we have officially declared the Corona Virus can be disregarded because we want to do some things!

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