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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWabbit View Post
    The key word is yet, it may be never but, they will have the option to pursue at anytime. Imagine for some reason you get on a prosecutor's or Governors list of people they need to quiet down...

    You may not be able to do anything about previous forms but I wouldn't give them any other opportunities.
    Maybe they didn’t prosecute me because they felt bad for me since they confiscated my SBR, because the rifle was stolen 30 years ago prior. I don’t know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDG View Post
    The whole registration system is a joke!
    Here, here!

    Either give them the info they want on a piece of paper (or as they told me, a RI-060), and follow the law, or don't, and take your chances. I haven't been prosecuted yet for the 2 I turned in, been 4.5 years, maybe it takes awhile.
    Let's say you don't turn in an RI060. What is the worst that can happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmuskier View Post
    Let's say you don't turn in an RI060. What is the worst that can happen?
    Nothing. You're not required to nor are you legally able to complete an RI-060 for something you already own.

    If you were to not complete an RI-060 for a handgun that you were required to complete one for (e.g., a handgun you purchase from someone else), then the worst that can happen is a $250 fine.

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    Both laws, 28.422 and 28.422(a) use the term "or otherwise acquires a pistol", directly after the word purchase.

    It is all not as clear as people wish. There is a dichotomy perceived that is not clearly defined. Both laws continue on to talk about sellers and purchasers, which are defined elsewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Both laws, 28.422 and 28.422(a) use the term "or otherwise acquires a pistol", directly after the word purchase.

    It is all not as clear as people wish. There is a dichotomy perceived that is not clearly defined. Both laws continue on to talk about sellers and purchasers, which are defined elsewhere.
    From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
    acquire
    transitive verb

    1: to get as one's own:
    a: to come into possession or control of often by unspecified means
    acquire property
    The team acquired three new players this year.
    From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
    make
    transitive verb

    1a: to bring into being by forming, shaping, or altering material : FASHION
    make a dress
    b: to lay out and construct
    make a road
    c: COMPOSE, WRITE
    make verses
    2: to put together from components : CONSTITUTE
    houses made of stone
    Seems like a clear distinction to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyborgHunter View Post
    Seems like a clear distinction to me.
    Is there always both a seller and a purchaser when an individual "otherwise acquires a pistol"?

    The instructions only appear to address one condition, a legitimate purchase. But the requirement is still there for all other cases. They just don't give a method to accomplish it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Both laws, 28.422 and 28.422(a) use the term "or otherwise acquires a pistol", directly after the word purchase.

    It is all not as clear as people wish. There is a dichotomy perceived that is not clearly defined. Both laws continue on to talk about sellers and purchasers, which are defined elsewhere.
    Bottom line, you can't "acquire" something you previously acquired and still have interest in (i.e., ownership, possession, etc.).

    Acquisition means you literally didn't have it before, but now you literally have it.

    Also, attaching things to "widget A" doesn't mean you've (re)acquired "widget A" because you never relinquished your interest in "widget A" to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
    Nothing. You're not required to nor are you legally able to complete an RI-060 for something you already own.

    If you were to not complete an RI-060 for a handgun that you were required to complete one for (e.g., a handgun you purchase from someone else), then the worst that can happen is a $250 fine.
    Exactly. Quoted for emphasis. Thank you.

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