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    I wouldnt ever vote for Biden. I will never again be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils. Out of the millions of conservatives to choose to fill the presidents seat, they can find one who will uphold the oath and represent our values. If they cannot, they don't deserve the win.

    I hope the president wins, we're screwed if he doesnt. But you can't take an oath, break it, and expect my vote. It simply doesnt work like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns N Glory View Post
    I wouldnt ever vote for Biden. I will never again be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils. Out of the millions of conservatives to choose to fill the presidents seat, they can find one who will uphold the oath and represent our values. If they cannot, they don't deserve the win.

    I hope the president wins, we're screwed if he doesnt. But you can't take an oath, break it, and expect my vote. It simply doesnt work like that.
    What oath did he break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreaseMonkeySRT View Post
    What oath did he break?
    His oath as a public servant to preserve freedom, not threaten it. He has attacked the first amendment by claiming hate speech should be punished, second amendment by claiming he's going after our "AR 14s" and fourth amendment by pushing red flag confiscation and again with how he wishes to remove your"AR 14s"

    Im not a huge fan of Trump but so far only freedom I've lost (which is too many) is bump stocks, and recieved the freedom of heath care choice again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by .38special View Post
    His oath as a public servant to preserve freedom, not threaten it. He has attacked the first amendment by claiming hate speech should be punished, second amendment by claiming he's going after our "AR 14s" and fourth amendment by pushing red flag confiscation and again with how he wishes to remove your"AR 14s"

    Im not a huge fan of Trump but so far only freedom I've lost (which is too many) is bump stocks, and recieved the freedom of heath care choice again....
    Sure you're not talking about Biden?

    As pointed out previously Trump said off the cuff things in regards to the 2A and backtracked on them. I judge people by their actions far more than by their words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreaseMonkeySRT View Post
    Sure you're not talking about Biden?

    As pointed out previously Trump said off the cuff things in regards to the 2A and backtracked on them. I judge people by their actions far more than by their words.
    I most definitely am talking about Biden.... Trump's record still is better then bidens promises

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    Quote Originally Posted by .38special View Post
    I most definitely am talking about Biden.... Trump's record still is better then bidens promises
    My bad, I hate pronoun usage sometimes! When I asked the OP what oaths did he break, the he was referring to his last paragraph talking about the president. I should've been more clear.

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    I voted Libertarian for president once and have always regretted it. I won't ever vote Democrat for any office until I'm dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns N Glory View Post
    I wouldnt ever vote for Biden. I will never again be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils. Out of the millions of conservatives to choose to fill the presidents seat, they can find one who will uphold the oath and represent our values. If they cannot, they don't deserve the win.

    I hope the president wins, we're screwed if he doesnt. But you can't take an oath, break it, and expect my vote. It simply doesnt work like that.
    So instead you voted for Jesus Christ to show your displeasure for the candidates on the ballot. When we collect the ballots from the write in bin at the end of the night I see what voters write-in. Each time I shake my head and think, why did they bother to vote? Not voting in a particular race is better than some of the asinine things that are written in.

    As far as a conservative candidate goes I will agree with you however, the voters of this country are not conservative as evidenced by how well conservatives do in the primaries. I find this disappointing and frustrating. The voters are not constitutional diehards. If that were the case we wouldn't have the socialism we find in government today and apparently depending on the results of the upcoming election could evolve into a Marxist regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreaseMonkeySRT View Post
    What oath did he break?
    He swore to uphold and defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. He claimed falsely, that our second amendment rights were safe. The bump stock ban was worded so loosely, they could use it to ban anything from a muzzle break to a scope, anything that increases the rate of fire. So, anything. Then there's red flag. Second amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment, 6th amendment, 10th and 14th amendment. It also puts lives at risk on both sides of the law. There are the police who are in violation of their oaths while attacking citizens with military style force over a rumor started in some ex parte kangaroo court. They risk losing their lives when they are used as criminal thugs instead of respectable police officers. And, it puts the citizens and their families and their neighbors lives and property at risk. No knock 3am someone yells "police" as though non police never would yell that. Door explodes, dog gets shot, cop gets shot, patriot gets shot and why? Because they got a divorce....Assuming it was the right house.

    Not to mention that we have failed to see any gains in our rights. Lots of infringements out there to repeal.

    After listening to Trump on Rush Limbaugh, I feel I made the right choice. He could have said something Maybe " We have big plans, big big plans". But nope. Nothing.
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