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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    Does this include schools & school districts?
    You would have to ask a Judge on that one.


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    HB 4066 of 2021
    Weapons: concealed; restrictions on usage, concealment, and transportation of bladed weapons; clarify. Creates new act.
    Last Action: 6/17/2021 transmitted

    This bill has passed the House and is now headed to the Senate.
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    HB 4066 of 2021
    Weapons: concealed; restrictions on usage, concealment, and transportation of bladed weapons; clarify. Creates new act.
    Last Action: 6/23/2021 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
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    Any of this cover fixed blades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71commander View Post
    Any of this cover fixed blades?
    From my understanding, which could be wrong, it makes state law (MCL) the law of the land, disallowing local governments (cities/ counties) from enforcing stricter local laws. Which would mean as long as you follow state law, you won’t become a felon for crossing county lines with an otherwise legal blade.

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    HB 4066 of 2021
    Weapons: concealed; restrictions on usage, concealment, and transportation of bladed weapons; clarify. Creates new act.
    Last Action: 9/24/2021 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...SFA-4066-L.pdf
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    Is this any clearer than the school and college rules that have muddied gun rights in Michigan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpNorthWOLF View Post
    Is this any clearer than the school and college rules that have muddied gun rights in Michigan?
    That all depends if "Political subdivision" would include a "school" (or library) in the eyes of the court.


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    This is how "Political subdivision" is defined in the bill:

    (b) "Political subdivision" means any county, city, village, township, municipal corporation, or special district, or any board, commission, or agency of a county, city, village, township, municipal corporation, or special district.
    For comparison, the firearm preemption law (MCL 123.1102) instead uses the term "Local unit of government" and defines it as this:

    (b) "Local unit of government" means a city, village, township, or county.
    I think based on the more detailed language in the knife preemption bill (ie "special district" and "board"), then it would apply to school boards and school districts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic View Post
    This is how "Political subdivision" is defined in the bill:



    For comparison, the firearm preemption law (MCL 123.1102) instead uses the term "Local unit of government" and defines it as this:



    I think based on the more detailed language in the knife preemption bill (ie "special district" and "board"), then it would apply to school boards and school districts.
    Do we need to get the Legislators to re-write the Gun description to match the Knife description??
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