Couldn't buy a gun today...thanks SOS

[Scoop]

Neither does a passport, yet it counts for government issued ID for a firearm transfer.

Not by itself (like a DL or ID card). It has to be used with a supplemental document for address verification.

A passport is a worldwide accepted form of identification. That's why it can be used with a supplemental document that provides address verification. A MI CPL is not (yet) an accepted form of identification (like a passport is).

[GreaseMonkeySRT]

It's interesting that other entities have used my MI CPL for a second form of ID verification, such as getting a PO Box, opening a bank account, or closing on a mortgage refinance.

Either way, the OP could use a passport and vehicle registration, but I'm betting Dunham's won't do that.

[Scoop]

At least one ID must have an address.

Only one is an "ID", not both.

A passport verifies your identity.

A supplemental government issued document, such as a voter registration, vehicle registration, etc., serves as address verification, not identification.

Because a state-issued DL or ID car has your address on it, a DOB, your name and a photo, it can serve as both identity verification and address verification.

[Scoop]

It's interesting that other entities have used my MI CPL for a second form of ID verification, such as getting a PO Box, opening a bank account, or closing on a mortgage refinance.

Either way, the OP could use a passport and vehicle registration, but I'm betting Dunham's won't do that.

I agree - there should be consistency. The bill PhotoTom mentioned would validate the MI CPL as acceptable for FFL transfers as (at least) ID and, if our address is added to it, for address verification.

If Dunham's is to lazy or ignorant to read the instructions on the 4473, or if their "policy" is to ONLY accept a valid, unexpired DL or state issued ID card, then the buyer should avoid spending any money there.

[ChaneyD]

Our Senate has introduced 2 bills that would force the SOS offices to go back to the walk-in system as before.

[Scoop]

Our Senate has introduced 2 bills that would force the SOS offices to go back to the walk-in system as before.

Without a filibuster proof majority in both chambers, I doubt that would be signed by wHitler the Clown in Lansing.

[GreaseMonkeySRT]

Not by itself (like a DL or ID card). It has to be used with a supplemental document for address verification.

Right, I already stated that.

I agree - there should be consistency. The bill PhotoTom mentioned would validate the MI CPL as acceptable for FFL transfers as (at least) ID and, if our address is added to it, for address verification.

If Dunham's is to lazy or ignorant to read the instructions on the 4473, or if their "policy" is to ONLY accept a valid, unexpired DL or state issued ID card, then the buyer should avoid spending any money there.

Agreed.

[PhotoTom]

Our Senate has introduced 2 bills that would force the SOS offices to go back to the walk-in system as before.

Once the backlog is caught up, I would MUCH prefer the appointment system vs "as before". Before COVID, I would walk in, pull a number and leave, running errands for a few HOURS, return to check where they were at, leave again for a couple more hours, come back…then ultimately wait an hour or so inside.

If they remain "by appointment only" and actually have next day (or two) appointments available at all times, AND if they actually keep the appointments on-time…that beats the walk-in system all day, any day for me! However, I do recognize that there are SOS offices where you can walk in and walk right up to the counter, but none in the Wayne/Oakland/Washtenaw/Monroe Counties area...that I am aware of anyway.

[Coctailer]

This is why I like 80% stuff.

[pscipio03]

Moving back to MI from AZ in Aug and after reading this went to the SOS (God is that aptly named) website. Earliest I can get in? Sept. That's just plain ignorant.
So, guess I'll have to wait to get another MI CPL as well since I'm assuming they'll want a copy of my MI DL in order to apply.
Oh, and really looking forward to having to do NICS checks again. So happy about that.