SB 0963,0964,0965,0966 definition of firearm

[Tallbear]

COMMITTEE: Judiciary

DATE: Thursday, June 12, 2014

TIME: 9:00 a.m.

PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933

PHONE: Tony Mosesso (373-5323)
Committee Clerk


**AMENDED AGENDA**

SB 866 Sen. Smith Criminal procedure; sentencing; crimes against elder adults; increase penalties for certain crimes against a person over 65 years of age.

SB 867 Sen. Smith Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for elder adult abuse; provide for.

SB 963 Sen. Hildenbrand Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm; modify, and prohibit minors from possessing certain weapons.

SB 964 Sen. Pavlov Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify.

SB 965 Sen. Hune Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify.

SB 966 Sen. Jones Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in NREPA; modify.

SB 977 Sen. Moolenaar Weapons; licensing; renewal of license to carry a concealed pistol; allow active duty military personnel to renew by mail.

SB 979 Sen. Hildenbrand Weapons; firearms; definition of pneumatic guns; provide for, and prohibit certain regulations by local units of government.

HB 5082 Rep. Heise Family law; parenting time; parenting coordinator; create.

[bradymsu]

You didn't capture "match-lock" or "piezo-electric" in your ignition sources. Better to stick the bumbling methods that they are using now.

They are trying to make a good move (or maybe not), they are just not good enough with the knowledge of firearms to get it right the first tine around.

One thing that could be a big draw back is that if "air-guns" are no longer "firearms", then the protections under 123.1102 would no longer be there. The term "firearm", and "pistol" is used throughout chapter 123. The locals would no longer be preempted for the case of "air-guns".

The preemption issue (MCL 123.1102-1104) is being dealt with in SB 979.

[luckless]

**wrong thread

[Roundballer]

The preemption issue (MCL 123.1102-1104) is being dealt with in SB 979.

I just read that. It looks pretty good, now if they could come back to this one and place that "pneumatic" definition in this one it would be great. It would also be a good move to tie-bar them.

[Tallbear]

SB 0963 of 2014
Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm; modify, and prohibit minors from possessing certain weapons. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421).
Last Action: 7/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

SB 0964 of 2014
Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify. Amends sec. 3t of 1846 RS 1 (MCL 8.3t).
Last Action: 7/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

SB 0965 of 2014
Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify. Amends secs. 222 & 528a of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.222 & 750.528a).
Last Action: 7/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

SB 0966 of 2014
Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in NREPA; modify. Amends secs. 40102 & 43503 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.40102 & 324.43503).
Last Action: 7/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

[Roundballer]

This "S2" substitute is still screwed up with the "propelled by an explosive" language. These guys really don't understand firearms at all.

[Tallbear]

SB 0963 of 2014
Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm; modify, and prohibit minors from possessing certain weapons. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421).
Last Action: 9/11/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

[fr3db3ar]

It does appear to make it illegal for a person under 18 to possess a BB/pellet/airsoft gun. What it does seem to solve is the whole pellet guns with integral sound suppressors weirdness due to the different definitions of "firearm".

Don't forget paintball

[luckless]

How could they possibly be able to get this done by election day? Seems to be hastily constructed legislation.

[Divegeek]

How could they possibly be able to get this done by election day? Seems to be hastily constructed legislation.

Most likely they won't even try to get it done by then. Most of them are already in election mode and little well get done on any bills until the lame duck session after the first week of Nov.

It's not surprising how much gets passed then, because they feel few eyes are upon them for at least a year.